The Missions Podcast (hosted by Alex Kocman and Scott Dunford) interviewed Zane Pratt on April 21, 2022 at the Together for the Gospel (T4G) conference in Louisville, KY. Zane Pratt is IMB's vice president for global training. The main topic was on the issue of defining church in CPM/DMM movements. They also talked about urgency, pragmatism, and…
Brooks Buser is the president of Radius International and a vocal critic of CPM and DMM. In this episode of the Defend and Confirm Podcast, co-hosts Sean DeMars and Russell Berger ask Brooks the following questions (paraphrased): Brooks, tell us a little about who you are and what you do.What does training missionaries at Radius look like?Have…
Alex Kocman and Scott Dunford with The Missions Podcast host Chad Vegas to discuss and define the proclamational model. This model is in contrast to the "discovery" model used in DMM methods. This podcast episode also touches on person of peace methodology, the definition of church, and raising up national leaders. It is divided into two parts.…
Russell and Sean with the Defend and Confirm Podcast discuss whether the churches planted in CPMs actually fit the biblical definition of a church. One interesting point was that the IMB defines a church differently than the Southern Baptist Convention. Watch it here and then come back and leave a review.
Alex Kocman and Scott Dunford, co-hosts of The Missions Podcast, discuss the concept of obedience-based discipleship that is found in CPM/DMM resources. They acknowledge the importance of obedience in discipleship but express concerns that it is related to works-based righteousness. The podcast references Alex Kocman's article posted here. Listen here.
In this episode of the Defend and Confirm podcast, Sean and Russell critique obedience-based discipleship. Key points include: Obedience before conversion isn't possible. Only regenerate people can obey.Obedience before conversion results in nominalism and false conversions.The priority is on "doing" rather than knowing or believing. This is unbiblical. Theological consideration: when were the disciples converted? Did Jesus…
This episode from the Defend and Confirm podcast critiques the methodology of finding a person of peace. Watch here.
This panel discussion between ABWE and Radius International took place at Bethlemen Baptist Church in June 2021. Both organizations have been openly critical of CPM and DMM. Panelists included Chad Vegas, Brad Buser, and Wayne Chen from Radius International, and Paul Davis, Alex Kocman, and Scott Dunford of ABWE. Questions for the panelists included the following (paraphrased):…
This episode is divided into two parts. In part one, co-hosts Sean and Russell argue that current church planting movement thinking started with Charles Finney and the Second Great Awakening. While not cited, this historical connection was made earlier by David Sills in his book Reaching and Teaching. In part two, they trace church planting movement thinking…
In June 2021, The Missions Podcast interviewed an anonymous missionary who serves in Southeast Asia about what he has witnessed regarding movement practices in his own organization. This podcast addressed pragmatism, relationships with other missionaries, and insider movements among others. The questions included (paraphrased): Tell us a little about who you are, where you are serving, and…
